When I went to pick up Charlotte OC
and her team at the entrance of the building that Baeble is located in - not going to lie - I was a little nervous. This was an artist I stumbled upon 4 years ago, back in 2013, when I was browsing YouTube and found her live performance of "Cut The Rope
." I can't really explain why I was so hooked on that video - maybe it was the haunting electric guitar, her soulful voice, or the dramatic song itself - but something about it stuck with me and led me to follow her all the way up until now (and beyond). They say you're not supposed to meet your favorite artists, but in this case, I'm glad I did - because she ended up being one of the most charismatic, down-to-earth people I've gotten the chance to talk to so far. As we sat, just about ready to start rolling, our crew asked Charlotte if she wanted a beer. She got so excited and accepted the offer. There wasn't a moment when she wasn't smiling or giggling and at that point, it felt like I was hanging out with a friend rather than interviewing someone I had only met five minutes ago at work.
EP was heavily influenced by Berlin, so I asked the pop singer-songwriter if that was also a common theme in her debut album, Careless People
, which is out today. "It's more home. I think Blackburn influenced this one... Where I'm from is quite normal, it's quite bleak, it's an industrial town - but there's also this side of it... Down my road there's a house where this ghost walks out of the middle of the road and knowing these stories when I was younger always made me feel like it had this spooky element. That's what I wanted to create - something that had warmth but also had this majestic element to it and I think that's what I kind of did on this album."
Sit back, relax, and enjoy the rest of the interview with the dark and majestical Charlotte OC; also be sure to check out her debut album, Careless People,
There are several points in the 22 year timeline of Charlotte OConnor that you might attribute to her metamorphosing into Charlotte OC, future pop star. The first was when she used to dress up as a witch as a child, stand at the end of her driveway staring at passersby in a long black dress. The last was in November 2012 when she was in Berlin for a co-writing session for her debut album.
Finding herself at the Berghain, probably the best nightclub in the world, on Sunday afternoon, a new impulse hit the singer/songwriter. 'I felt like somebody had just let me in on the biggest secret in the world. Because the monolithic temple of nightlife and seat of modern bohemianism doesnt allow cameras or press in, in some ways they had. A new loop for her music began to foment in her mind. 'It felt like heaven and hell to me.
'Certain things that I saw I could not believe, she says, of the temple to decadence. 'I stayed for only a few hours but left inspired. Amid the darkness there was beauty, a scintillating tangent for a songwriter. She heard a mix of Bon Ivers Hi Life being cut up on the spot in the main room and looked at the intensity of the scene around her. 'Just hearing that voice. I couldnt believe where I was. What I was hearing was heaven, what I was seeing was a version of hell. It was the most amazing clash of the senses. I have thought about that afternoon many times since.
Charlottes songwriting inspiration began to chime to a new, ethereal beat. 'The whole place just blew my mind. I wrote, Colour My Heart when I came back, which became the song that would come to define her direction, a bewitching and unique 'spooky gospel soul that sounds prematurely hit-ready. 'I want my music to sound like Berlin feels. The chords to Colour My Heart are how I hear Berlin.
Because she was born in Blackburn in the early 90s there was perhaps something in the bloodline, the demography and geography that would connect spiritually, if not necessarily stylistically in Charlottes music to the collapsing edges of a dance-floor.
Charlotte OC understood music as an outlet to process emotion as a five-year-old child. The daughter of a half Malawi, half Indian mother and Irish father who was in The Merseybeats for a few moonlighting months in the '60s, the house echoed to the strains of classic songwriting. John Martyn, James Taylor and Joni Mitchell were complemented by the artistic nervous breakdown of Talking Heads, a family favourite. The youngest of three sisters, she resolved to create her own musical universe at 5. 'I remember my middle sister telling me I couldnt go somewhere with her and it was the first time Id known pain. I remember thinking, its fine, Im going to be a singer. I just had that belief.
Other options failed to present themselves. 'I wasnt academic at all. I went to a really bitchy and competitive all-girls school. Singing was all I could do and all I wanted to do. The first artist she owned, her epiphany experience, was Alicia Keys. 'Sat behind a piano, doesnt have to take her clothes off, she became an instant idol for me. She also proved a gateway drug, into the soul singers she now calls to mind. When Charlotte sings there are echoes as diverse as Candi Staton and Stevie Nicks. Genre doesnt matter to her, so long as its true.
Armed with an unusual education of classic songwriting at home, by 15 she had begun singing her own songs. By 16 she was posting on MySpace and quickly picked up a management and record contract.
'At 16 you really dont know who you are, she says 'I was at a major label, working with great people but I had no idea how I should sound or what direction I wanted to go in. I had to learn to be myself. It wasnt the right time. I wasnt ready. A record she slaved over was deemed fit for release by the time she was 18. It never came out.
Her baptism of fire she now thinks was part of the process. 'It was the biggest relief when I was released from the contract. I wasnt proud of the music I was performing and that sense of personal pride is so important to me and fundamental to my music. Its you, at the end of the day. What I have now is a maternal feeling towards the music. With that album I hadnt any experiences to draw on. I hadnt gone through love or death. I had never loved anybody. So a love song couldnt be sincere.
Fundamental changes happened in her late teens when she began writing for herself, not for other peoples ideas of what she should be. Free from the restrictions of commercial expectation, she had something to write about. 'I got dumped big time, for being a naughty girl. It was raw.
Charlottes songwriting is sophisticated and immediate, familiar and strange. She says she likes wordplay and imagery but has also learnt to trust a gut instinct. She had her 'lightbulb moment co-writing moment at Tim Andersons studio in LA. 'Im obsessed with Tim Burton and that studio is like hes thrown up all over it. Its my favourite place. I met Tim, had a cigarette, went back inside, he started playing something on the piano and it just happened. I knew that working with him just flowed. The song, the lyrics, it was all so easy to write. The deep ascending chord sequence was her touch. 'I love writing melodies more than anything. Its about what the voice is saying. Everything else is embellishment.
Charlotte is a thoughtful and sometimes abstract lyricist. She came up with the suitably stroppy, Philly soul-sounding hook for Hangover in exactly that state. 'Id been rat-arsed the night before and went back in the studio apologising to Tim for being hungover. He started playing a beat and I told him I had to go. As I was walking out of the door I started singing the word Hangover and we both came in with In the morning. It was fully natural. The best co-writing is when you feel like youre working from the same brain. I went back and we nailed it. She cites an early love of Dolly Partons incredible ear for melodic storytelling for any country overtones to her tunes.
Charlotte is currently at the closing stages of what will be her EP with debut album to follow, a sultry composite of structured song-writing, a freewheeling vocal range and subtle electronic edge. She is ready for her close-up. 'I couldnt be prouder of it, she says. At the finishing-touch stages of her hallucinatory 21st century soul epic, she has every right to be.